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Ms Follett: With whom?

MRS CARNELL: With the community. The NCPA has had constant and open views on this. We have had newspaper articles. We have had interviews on this for years. Nobody has been able to make a decision.

Mr Hird: I take a point of order, Mr Speaker. The Opposition have asked the Chief Minister a question. They should hear the Chief Minister's answer. Whether it is palatable or not, they should listen to the Chief Minister's answer.

MR SPEAKER: Pray continue, Chief Minister. I think you are managing quite well.

MRS CARNELL: It might be useful to table a Canberra Times article of 6 February 1994 in which Ms Follett is quoted about a land swap on Kingston. The fact of the matter is that consultation and public debate about this has been going on for a very long time. Possibly the Labor Party does not talk about these things. Within the Liberal Party it has been spoken about and consulted on for a very long time. The fact is that we have gone ahead and made a decision that should have been made years ago. It is a decision that is in the best interests of the people of Canberra. It allows business to get on in this city. It is a shot in the arm for the business community and for employment. We believe that it is a good decision, and I believe that the people of Canberra think so too.

Adult Education

MR MOORE: I would like to direct my question to Mr Stefaniak as Minister for Education and Training. I did indicate to Mr Stefaniak that I would be asking questions along these lines in order to get a full answer. I understand, Mr Stefaniak, that you will take the chair of the Australian Ministerial Council on Employment, Education, Training and Youth Affairs. Would you please identify how many jurisdictions in Australia have an adult education board or council and a policy on adult education? Is the ACT one of the jurisdictions to have either a board or a policy? If not, what action do you intend to take to facilitate implementation of such a board and/or such a policy? How will your efforts compare to those of the other States for National Education Week in early September?

MR STEFANIAK: I thank Mr Moore for the question, which I think includes his supplementary question as well.

Mr Moore: That was to give you a fighting chance this time.

MR STEFANIAK: Thank you, and thank you also for providing that to me. Mr Moore, at this stage only New South Wales and Victoria have formally established boards or councils of adult education, although South Australia has set up an interim council of adult and community education. In addition, Tasmania is in the process of establishing an institute of adult education council. With reference to the other States and Territories, Western Australia has a representative reference group on adult and community education within its State Department of Training. Queensland and the

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