Page 2997 - Week 10 - Tuesday, 15 September 2015

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engaged in an event at the Hughes Primary School to celebrate Indigenous Literacy Day. There would have been about 20 business owners who accompanied us or we met with on the walking tour in Phillip. The business roundtable had around a dozen attendees and the community services one a similar number—

Mr Hanson: Madam Speaker, a point of order on relevance. My supplementary was quite specific. I asked how many local Woden residents visited the pop-up cabinet, not how many school kids were roped into this.

MADAM SPEAKER: I think a school student is quite legitimately a member of the electorate. I call Mr Barr to answer the question.

MR BARR: Thank you, Madam Speaker. I think in total several hundred local residents were engaged—

Opposition members interjecting—


MR BARR: in various activities, as expected. Those opposite may interject and may be cynical about community engagement. We know they like to hide away and plot over leadership changes. We know all about that. They are much more comfortable in the backroom knifing leaders.

Opposition members interjecting—

MADAM SPEAKER: Sit down, Mr Barr.

MR BARR: That is the preferred position.

MADAM SPEAKER: Sit down, Mr Barr. If you cannot be relevant to the question, I will sit you down. A question without notice, Mr Smyth.

Mr Hanson interjecting—

MADAM SPEAKER: Order! I want to hear Mr Smyth.

ACT Emergency Services Agency—reform

MR SMYTH: My question is to the minister for emergency services. Minister, in an ESA motion debate on 12 August this year you noted:

The strategic reform agenda … will support the ESA to continue as a high performing emergency services organisation, indeed among the best in Australia, and will position it to best meet the challenges of the years ahead.

Minister, however, on 22 August this year the Transport Workers Union ACT delegate noted:

Members are reporting to me there’s a wide-held belief that nothing has changed—

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