Page 4896 - Week 13 - Wednesday, 11 November 2009

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when it comes to the absolute misinformation that has been put out by Jon Stanhope on this issue, it is extraordinary.

There is no regard for the truth. This is what Jon Stanhope is now against. He is now against competitive and transparent processes. He is against that. He says you cannot do it. You cannot have a competitive and transparent process in the grocery sector any more under his regime. You cannot have a competitive and transparent process. All of the options that are available to have a competitive and transparent process, such as limited tenders and taking account of competition, this is the thing that Jon Stanhope does not understand. He does not understand that you actually can have nuance. You actually can be in favour of competition and you can actually have an open process. This is the problem.

We saw the difference in the Chief Minister as soon as he did not have his notes. He could not quite get his head around the concept that you might actually have ways of having open and transparent processes for a competitive supermarket sector in the ACT. But what Jon Stanhope has said today, through his ignorance or his dishonesty, whichever way you want to look at it—

Mr Stanhope: A point or order, Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Stop the clock, please.

Mr Stanhope: I have shown enormous forbearance but the Leader of the Opposition has just accused me twice now of being dishonest.

MR SESELJA: I have not, actually.

Mr Stanhope: Yes, you have.

MR SESELJA: I said it is one or the other.

Mr Stanhope: You have just accused me of being dishonest, Mr Seselja, and if you wish to proceed with those allegations you need to move a substantive motion—

Mrs Dunne: So you are admitting that you are ignorant; okay.

Mr Stanhope: Well, if you want a censure motion, move it.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you, Mr Stanhope; the point is made. Mr Seselja, you should withdraw the inference of dishonesty by the Chief Minister.

MR SESELJA: I withdraw, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, we can only—

Mrs Dunne: A point or order, Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: I am sorry, Mr Seselja. Mrs Dunne.

Mrs Dunne: On a point of order: Mr Stanhope said that he had exercised enormous forbearance. He has not. He has interjected consistently through this and I think it is time that you closed him down.

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