Page 3694 - Week 10 - Wednesday, 26 August 2009

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I said then, “I won’t go to New South Wales until all the programs have been bedded down, until all of the technical glitches that go with new buildings have been bedded down, until all of the programs—

Opposition members interjecting—

MR HARGREAVES: Mr Speaker, those opposite are not thinking about what actually happens in a corrections centre, particularly this one. I have said this before: there are two types of people who go through the AMC. The first set of people—with whom, of course, we have maximum difficulty—are those people who have experienced the New South Wales system before. Those people who have come out of the New South Wales system are generally people who have been brutalised.

Mr Hanson: “… the ACT Government had squandered an opportunity to negotiate with NSW on the issue.”

MR HARGREAVES: Mr Hanson can babble on as much as he likes because—

Mr Barr: Was that when you were supporting a prison or when you weren’t?

MR HARGREAVES: That is right. We need to make sure that the post-release programs for the AMC are indications for their release. I am not going to offer the New South Wales people a facility—

Mr Barr interjecting—

MR HARGREAVES: I am not going to offer the people of New South Wales the same service that we have been receiving from New South Wales—

Mr Hanson: Fascinating lesson in history, this.

MR HARGREAVES: Will you just stop waving things around. You’ve got flies. The issue—

Mr Coe: You look like Neville Chamberlain coming off the plane there.

MR HARGREAVES: The poor man’s Christopher Pyne starts pontificating once again. You go for it, young fella. You are going to make a name for yourself. You are not going to like it, but you are going to make a name for yourself.

Mr Coe: Good on you, grandad—incompetence.

Mr Seselja: He can always make you look silly, John.

MR HARGREAVES: Oh, bring it on. Look at this. Motormouth over here says it, so you have to believe it. When it comes out of the man with the ever-moving lips, that is fine with me. This is a study in things that move.

Mr Seselja: Are you going to answer the question?


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