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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2001 Week 8 Hansard (9 August) . . Page.. 2729 ..


MR SPEAKER: Thank you.

MR SMYTH: Mr Speaker, they have been dishonest, one in denial of his words-

Mr Stanhope: On a point of order, Mr Speaker.

MR SMYTH: That is what this is about.

Mr Stanhope: No, this is about a substantive motion moved by the Chief Minister.

MR SPEAKER: Just a moment.

Mr Stanhope: Mr Speaker, on a point of order: the suggestion has been made again that I have been dishonest.

MR SMYTH: That is right.

Mr Stanhope: You have ruled that that requires a substantive motion. There is no substantive motion in place which suggests that I have been dishonest or that I have lied. The comments are out of order. Suggestions that I have lied or that I have been dishonest need to be made through a substantive motion. No such substantive motion has been moved.

Mr Humphries: I think it is there in the motion.

Mr Stanhope: It is not there. Mr Speaker, the motion says:

Censures Mr Stanhope for failing to provide leadership on, and uphold among his party, acceptable standards of parliamentary conduct and honesty and due respect for the status of women.

There is no suggestion in the substantive motion that I have lied or that I have been dishonest. Withdraw.

Mr Humphries: Read the third dot point of the motion. Read that out aloud.

MR SPEAKER: Order! Just a moment please.

Mr Humphries: Can I speak to the point of order?

MR SPEAKER: Order! There is no suggestion in the motion that Mr Stanhope has lied.

Mr Humphries: Mr Speaker, can I address you on that point?

MR SPEAKER: You may. You may talk about failing in leadership; certainly you may talk about upholding among his party acceptable standards. But the motion does not contain the word "lie".

Mr Humphries: There is no word "lie" in respect of Mr Quinlan, either, Mr Speaker.


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