Page 3909 - Week 13 - Wednesday, 9 November 1994

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Mr Humphries: Did you say it or didn't you, Ellnor?

MRS GRASSBY: No, I did not.

MADAM SPEAKER: Order!

Mr Cornwell: Madam Speaker, the standing orders do not allow that word to be used.

MADAM SPEAKER: Could we have some order. Mrs Grassby, I did not hear you call Mr Humphries a liar; but, if you did, you will withdraw it.

MRS GRASSBY: Fine. Mr Humphries has caused a lot of mischief over this. I was rung last night by Mrs O'Donovan and she told me that it was going to be brought up. I said to her, "Well, I understand that it did not even get through the Administration and Procedures Committee". That is what I said.

Mr Humphries: And you implied that I was part of that decision.

MRS GRASSBY: I did not say how the vote went, because I did not know how the vote went. I was told by the Whip that it did not get up. That was exactly what was told to me. Mr Humphries has caused mischief over this. He has lost the plot, as he does over many things. Mr Humphries does not handle the truth very well.

MADAM SPEAKER: Order! It is a personal explanation, Mrs Grassby. Please talk about matters that refer to you and you only.

MRS GRASSBY: Exactly, Madam Speaker. This is what I am saying. He has lost the plot over it. Mr Humphries thought he could really make an issue of this and cause trouble. In his Machiavellian way he has completely lost the plot, and he is wrong. That was not what I said at all.

MADAM SPEAKER: Order!

PUBLIC INTEREST DISCLOSURE BILL 1994

Debate resumed from 11 May 1994, on motion by Mrs Carnell:

That this Bill be agreed to in principle.

MS FOLLETT (Chief Minister and Treasurer) (11.00): Madam Speaker, in speaking on the Public Interest Disclosure Bill may I say, first of all, that, as a government, we are committed to the development of a public service which has a reputation for integrity and for probity. Nevertheless, we do acknowledge that, unfortunately, situations will occur which give rise to allegations of fraudulent or corrupt behaviour or maladministration. This does occur from time to time. As part of our commitment to improved accountability, we certainly wish those situations to be dealt with properly, and we recognise that in some cases that will require additional protection for people who make such allegations.


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