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MR HUMPHRIES (Minister for Health, Education and the Arts) (3.07): Mr Speaker, I seek leave to make a statement concerning the misleading of the house.
MR SPEAKER: Is leave granted?
Mr Berry: No, not until he tells us what it is about.
MR SPEAKER: Leave is not granted.
MR HUMPHRIES: Mr Speaker, I move the suspension of so much of the standing orders as would - - -
Mr Moore: Just give us a little detail. We would be delighted to give you leave; just give us a little bit more detail.
MR HUMPHRIES: It is in respect of a matter that was raised by Mrs Grassby on Tuesday in which she asked me to withdraw a statement that Mr Berry had misled the house, had told a lie, and I said that I proposed to come back here to indicate that, in fact, Mr Berry did tell a lie and to provide evidence of that fact.
Mr Berry: I take a point of order. First of all, the Minister has accused me of lying and that is unparliamentary. I think he has to withdraw that.
MR HUMPHRIES: I am going to prove it, Mr Speaker.
Mr Berry: Whether you prove it or not, the fact of the matter is that you are required to withdraw it. Mr Speaker, the other point of order is that if the Minister had chosen to give us notice of this issue he may have been given leave; otherwise he will have to seek the suspension of standing orders.
MR SPEAKER: Thank you, Mr Berry. Mr Humphries, under the circumstances I think you are pre-empting the proof that you have. Therefore I would ask you to withdraw the lie accusation - - -
MR HUMPHRIES: Mr Speaker, I am about to prove that Mr Berry lied to the Assembly.
MR SPEAKER: I recognise that, but you have not got to that point yet.
Mr Kaine: He wishes to make a statement in connection with that matter, I think, Mr Speaker.
MR HUMPHRIES: Yes. I wish to make a statement in respect of Mr Berry's statement to the Assembly.
Mr Berry: You have not been given leave.
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