Page 2838 - Week 10 - Wednesday, 15 August 1990

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Mr Kaine: No worse than people ratting on their mates in the annual convention.

MR BERRY: I hear the Chief Minister talking about matters which were discussed in the meeting of the Standing Committee on Administration and Procedures last night. The Government has tried to shift the focus of the debate by introducing legal technicalities into the argument. One of the difficulties that arise in this debate is the behaviour of the No Self Government people. However difficult it might be to gauge from time to time, the No Self Government people, early in the piece - very early, I should add - demonstrated some sort of eagerness to ensure that public facilities remain in public hands and that public services are maintained at given levels. They have turned 180 degrees on that position.

Mr Moore: Again.

MR BERRY: Again, as Mr Moore says. They have said that they will now agree to the guts being ripped out of our education system. All the schools will be closed and they will not be called to task on the issue because they will not be put in the limelight because of Mr Collaery's action in relation to the technical legal position that he has raised. We would have preferred this motion to be voted on, on the floor.

We recognise that the Government has the numbers and that the Labor Opposition would have been done like a dinner on the basis of numbers. We wanted to focus on these people opposite, to ensure that every person in the electorate knows how every member votes on the closure of hospitals and how some people will have ratted on their electoral promise. We could focus attention on that, on each and every one of you. You can hold your head down, Dr Kinloch, because your name would be foremost.

Dr Kinloch: May I ask that that be withdrawn?

MR SPEAKER: Order! A point of order, Dr Kinloch? Resume your seat, Mr Berry.

Dr Kinloch: I do not know whether it is a point of order, but I am perfectly happy to hold my head up. I was writing on a pad of paper.

MR SPEAKER: That is not a point of order. Please proceed, Mr Berry.

MR BERRY: Mr Speaker, the motion that I have proposed today seeks to amend the standing orders so that there will be no further confusion in the mind of anybody; neither will the standing orders be able to be used by the likes of Mr Collaery and his mates, however few there are, in an attempt to confuse the public. If my motion is successful the standing orders will be very clear and they can then be


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