Page 1208 - Week 04 - Wednesday, 4 May 2022

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MR HANSON (Murrumbidgee) (4.02): On the point of order, Mr Assistant Speaker, it is clearly a debating point. I think that if you are attacking Western military equipment, saying that it should be defunded, in essence, that is clearly a debating point. That is the effect of Mr Braddock’s policy. It is clearly the effect of his policy. Not only does he want to defund the Ukrainian people; he would like to defund the Australian Defence Force. He said it: that their plan is to cut $300 billion out of the ADF and to get rid of the defence industry. So there is no point of order; it is a debating point.

MR ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Mr Pettersson): There is no point of order, Mr Braddock.

MR BRADDOCK (Yerrabi) (4.01): In closing, I am going to refer to one of those radical—

MR ASSISTANT SPEAKER: Mr Braddock, we are closing the debate.

Mr Hanson: It’s not your motion, mate.

MR BRADDOCK: We haven’t had a vote yet on my amendment.

MR ASSISTANT SPEAKER: We are doing it now.

MR HANSON (Murrumbidgee) (4.02): I am just wondering if this is on the amendment or whether there is going to be a closing, because I want to close.

MR ASSISTANT SPEAKER: Members, the question before us is that Mr Braddock’s amendment to Mr Hanson’s amended motion be agreed to. Our path relies on the outcome of that vote.

Amendment negatived.

MR HANSON (Murrumbidgee) (4.04): Democracy is what we all do here. In The Friends of Voltaire, Hall wrote the phrase “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” We are all entitled to our views—yes, I agree. We are all entitled to our positions.

Mr Barr, I am thankful to you and your party that you have held the line here. You have to walk a difficult path of, hopefully, clinging to some reason whilst also appeasing your coalition colleagues, and you have navigated that today. I am not encumbered by that; the Greens are not my coalition partner and they never will be my coalition partner. I think if you listened to what Mr Braddock said today in his speech, it is clear why we would never do a deal with the devil. You, in the Labor Party, have decided to. But when you listen to the—

Mr Davis: The devil!

MR HANSON: It is a turn of phrase, Mr Davis. Do not be offended by everything.

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