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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2022 Week 03 Hansard (Thursday, 7 April 2022) . . Page.. 959 ..


We need to start raising this debate up from “if you do this or you do that, you are either good or you are bad” and start looking at everything in between and all the grey and the complexity that goes with this. That is how we start to get people homes and we build a city that responds to everyone so that they can have their house.

Mr Gentleman: Mr Acting Speaker, I have a point of order. During debate earlier on, Mrs Kikkert, in the contribution from Minister Cheyne, interjected, calling her a clown. It is unparliamentarily and I ask that she withdraw.

MR ASSISTANT SPEAKER: This was in an interjection?

MR GENTLEMAN: Yes. She stood and interjected, calling the minister a clown. It was well heard by this side.

Mrs Kikkert: You can check Hansard.

MR ASSISTANT SPEAKER: My understanding is that the word “clown” has been withdrawn before, by Wayne Berry, way back in 2006. Mrs Kikkert, are you of a mind to withdraw the imputation that Ms Cheyne is a clown?

Mrs Kikkert: I withdraw.

MS LEE (Kurrajong—Leader of the Opposition) (4.29): I have to thank Ms Orr, because for a large part of her contribution she made the case for my motion—that is, that the Canberra community want and deserve choice. That is exactly what my motion is about, so thank you, Ms Orr, for making those arguments and supporting my call for more choice.

When it comes to this Labor-Greens government, it is always someone else’s fault and it is always a matter of “Do as I say, not do as I do.” When it comes to “choice”, I use that term in quotations because, as Mr Cain aptly pointed out, it is not a choice when that choice has been determined by the Labor-Greens government, whether you like it or not. That is not choice.

It is all very easy for the Labor-Greens members in this place to throw around words like “choice” and “a house for all” and “leave no-one behind”, but when it really comes down to it, actions speak louder than words. What we have seen from this Labor-Greens government is a lot of hypocrisy. It is a case of “Do as I say, not do as I do.” Mr Gentleman is standing there, dictating to everyone else: “You should all go into an apartment or you should all downsize.” Where do you live, Mr Gentleman? Where do you live? This is so typical of every single Labor-Greens member in this place. It is always about “Do as I say, not do as I do.”

There has been talk from a few members about the Housing Choices Collaboration Hub. Let us put that in context. Firstly, it is 36 people. Secondly, they talked about infill. Their support for infill says that they want to see an increase in “a mix of dwelling sizes and diversity of dwelling types”. In fact, as specific examples for consideration or incorporation, it says:


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