Page 3543 - Week 10 - Wednesday, 18 September 2019

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MR RAMSAY: I thank Mr Parton for his question. There has been extensive consultation with the clubs industry over the past two years on a number of matters. In terms of consultation activity on the gambling harm reduction reforms we have had consultation with each club that has asked for it. In terms of the work around the community contributions scheme there has been specific consultation with each club that has asked. I assure the Assembly that all of the clubs that contact my office—

Mr Parton: Point of order, Madam Speaker, on relevance. The question was specifically, “how many clubs did you consult with?”

MADAM SPEAKER: I think the minister responded that he consulted with those clubs that asked.

Ms Lawder: How many is that?

MADAM SPEAKER: Minister, you may have that information to hand.

MR RAMSAY: I will take on notice the precise number, but I can say that we have engaged with every single club in the ACT over the past three years on a number of matters including the club diversification process, the community contributions scheme and the regulation changes. We have had 54 meetings with different clubs and clubs industry groups, 26 meetings with 14 ClubsACT members and five meetings with ClubsACT itself. During the community contributions scheme review six clubs specifically looked for consultation and we met with each one of those through direct meetings with my officials to provide in-person views on those reforms. I have met directly with, visited and corresponded personally with a large number of clubs across the ACT in a range of areas as well.

MR PARTON: Minister, can you name the clubs that you consulted with in regards to the gaming machine amendment regulation? Can you name even one of them?

MR RAMSAY: Yes.

MR COE: Minister, will you now please name a single club that you have consulted with in regard to the gaming machine amendment regulation, and have you personally consulted with any clubs about this regulation?

MR RAMSAY: It is important for the opposition to be aware of the way that the government works. The government works in a way that consultation can happen either with me or with—

Mr Coe: Point of order.

MADAM SPEAKER: Minister, resume your seat.

Mr Coe: The specific question was, “Will you name a club?” and then “Have you personally?” It is all very well to have other background, but it is a very specific question. I ask that he be directly relevant; not relevant but directly relevant.


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