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He talked much about engagement with the community, consultation, feedback and so on. However, on the way to work this morning I was listening to the radio. I heard the CEO of ClubsACT explaining that he cannot even get to meet with the minister, that the minister will not meet with him.

I just point out that if you are going to come into this place and say that you are consulting, you are engaging, you are listening, when the reality is that the major representative body of clubs in the ACT cannot even get a meeting with the minister, I think that points out that the minister is saying one thing in here and doing something very different out in the community.

MR RAMSAY (Ginninderra—Attorney-General, Minister for the Arts and Cultural Events, Minister for Building Quality Improvement, Minister for Business and Regulatory Services and Minister for Seniors and Veterans) (4.17): In response, and in closing, I note that the communication with all clubs—with ClubsACT and with other organisations that represent clubs in the ACT—has been very strong and very thorough, and it has been consistent right across all clubs. That started on 21 August in relation to this particular process. In particular, there has also been further information that has been published on the JACS website.

I note that there have not only been emails to and from ClubsACT, there have also been two meetings with ClubsACT and Mr Neville Stevens that ClubsACT have then cancelled. I think it is very difficult for ClubsACT to be claiming that they are not being engaged with when it is they who have cancelled on two occasions.

We will continue to consult broadly right across the clubs sector. We have continued to be. We had meetings with a range of clubs, including with ClubsACT. That happened on 10 October. I have responded to ClubsACT in previous times, but we are not going to set up trophy meetings to make the ClubsACT CEO feel a little happier about things. We will work quite clearly, engaging strongly with the community, with the clubs and with the clubs sector to make sure that the provisions in this bill and the reforms that this government has been driving will continue right across for the benefit of the community.

Amendments agreed to.

Bill, as a whole, as amended, agreed to.

Bill, as amended, agreed to.

Royal Commission Criminal Justice Legislation Amendment Bill 2018

Debate resumed from 25 October 2018, on motion by Mr Ramsay:

That this bill be agreed to in principle.

MR HANSON (Murrumbidgee) (4.19): The Canberra Liberals will be supporting this bill. The policy objective of this bill is to implement recommendations made by the

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