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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2015 Week 07 Hansard (Thursday, 4 June 2015) . . Page.. 2113 ..

Ayes 8

Noes 7

Mr Barr

Mr Corbell

Mr Coe

Ms Lawder

Ms Berry

Ms Fitzharris

Mr Doszpot

Mr Smyth

Dr Bourke

Mr Gentleman

Mrs Dunne

Mr Wall

Ms Burch

Mr Rattenbury

Mr Hanson

Question resolved in the affirmative.

Bill agreed to in principle.

Detail stage

MS BURCH (Brindabella—Minister for Education and Training, Minister for Police and Emergency Services, Minister for Disability, Minister for Racing and Gaming and Minister for the Arts) (5.03): Pursuant to standing orders 182A(b) and (c), I seek leave to move together amendments to this bill that are minor or technical in nature and are in response to the comments made by the scrutiny committee.

Leave granted.

Clause 1 agreed to.

Clause 2.

MR SMYTH (Brindabella) (5.03): I move amendment No 1 circulated in my name [see schedule 5 at page 2140].

This is the certainty amendment—or as much certainty as we can give the clubs. This amendment says that the minister must fix a date for the commencement of schedule 2 at least two years after the commencement of section 53 and that if the minister wants to call on phase 2 the notification period for that be at least one year before the date is fixed for its commitment. It is to give the clubs some certainty.

The amendment to my amendment that Ms Burch will move reduces that. There is actually no certainty and no protection in the bill at this stage. At least this amendment has forced the minister to come up with her own amendment, but she has halved that time to just six months.

What the clubs deserve—and what those who, for instance, finance the clubs need to know—is to know that the clubs have a future; the terms of the operation of their poker machines in those venues; and, if they are lending money, what exactly they are lending the money against. Is it 100 machines? Is it 400 machines? Is it 700 machines? Or is it a number that the minister will determine at the whim of her ministry?

The problem for the clubs is that we will end up with continued uncertainty. Yes, they will have a trading scheme, but it is a poorly defined trading scheme. It is a trading scheme, but we do not know how it will affect greenfield sites. More importantly, we do not know how it will affect clubs’ day-to-day operation.

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