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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2002 Week 13 Hansard (21 November) . . Page.. 3944 ..

MR HUMPHRIES (continuing):

admitting to having taken part in or heard this conversation, or being aware of any such conversation, except Mrs Cross.

Mrs Cross: No. There are others, Mr Humphries-not just me.

MR HUMPHRIES: Well, where are they? Who are they, Mrs Cross?

MR SPEAKER: Direct your remarks through the chair, Mr Humphries.

MR HUMPHRIES: Mr Speaker, the other day on 2CC Radio, Mrs Cross purported to have other witnesses who are prepared to testify to this conversation. She said she would bring forward that information in due course. Well, the debate is closing and we have not heard this other information. Who are the other people? Name them-indicate who they are. Mr Speaker, there are no other people, because there was no such conversation. I know there cannot be any credible or truthful witnesses, because there was never such a conversation.

Mr Osborne is entitled to have this information put on the floor of the Assembly, because members of the public have such information put forward in such a way all the time. There is no queue-jumping here. It is a right every member of the public has, if they approach a member of this place, and that right should be upheld.

MR SPEAKER: The member's time has expired.

MS DUNDAS (4.36): Mr Speaker, we seem to be having a conversation about truths, untruths and half-truths. I remind members of the Assembly that, including myself, we are not judges-we are legislators. To have the tag of "liar" bandied back and forth at members of this Assembly and at members of the public does little to help us in our legislative duties.

I support Ms Tucker's attempts to add more information to this unfortunate ongoing debate in relation to the matter of privilege, so that as much information as possible is available to members if we need to consider any further ramifications arising from this issue. As such, I support a suspension of standing orders so the document can be tabled.

MRS CROSS: Mr Speaker, I seek leave to speak.

Leave granted.

MRS CROSS: Mr Humphries referred to an interview I did the other day regarding further information and corroboration of what I stated. I seek leave to table a statutory declaration from one of the people I referred to in my interview. You asked for it and I got it. I have not circulated it yet, because I received it only a while ago. He asked for it and I have it. I am happy to circulate that to members.

Leave granted.

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