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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2002 Week 12 Hansard (13 November) . . Page.. 3568 ..


MR CORNWELL (continuing):

I will certainly not be supporting the motion put forward because I think there is a lack of information. Indeed, it is presumptuous of the Assembly to even be considering such motions here in the ACT. I repeat: it is the mouse that roared.

MS TUCKER (5.42): I want to add briefly to the debate in respect of the statement I made before. I said I would reference an article which was actually a critique of the arms sales.

MR SPEAKER: You will need leave.

MS TUCKER: No. I am speaking to the amendment, really-although I guess I am not, strictly. I will seek leave. I thought I could take the opportunity to speak to the amendment.

MR SPEAKER: The difficulty you will find yourself in is that, if you do not confine your remarks to the amendment, you will be out of order. So if you want to speak again, you will have to seek leave.

MS TUCKER: Okay. I am talking about the amendment. What I am saying is that Mr Hargreaves' amendment was-

MR SPEAKER: Why do you not just seek leave to speak again? That will simplify the matter.

MS TUCKER: They do not seem to want to give me leave-so I can do it very quickly. I will say briefly to Mr Hargreaves' amendment that-

Mr Pratt: If it is applicable, we will be most supportive, Ms Tucker.

MS TUCKER: Could you ask Mr Pratt to be quiet, please?

MR SPEAKER: Order, Mr Pratt!

MS TUCKER: In Mr Hargreaves' amendment, he is dealing with his very strongly felt concerns about how the United Nations works, and the fact that they need to be acknowledged-or whatever the amendment is. I am sure that is related to the fact that we need to get a clear look at the actions occurring right around the world, including arms sales, as mentioned in the article by Gideon Burrows in the Guardian to which I referred before. That points out, in a very clear way, the hypocrisy of Britain and the United States-and the United Nations is certainly a good body to be looking at that hypocrisy.

Amendments agreed to.

MS DUNDAS (5.44): I thank the Assembly for the debate. By passing this motion as amended, as I believe we will now do, we are able to join with the Tasmanian parliament in sending a clear message to our Prime Minister that we oppose Australian involvement in a first strike on Iraq.


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