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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2001 Week 6 Hansard (15 June) . . Page.. 1828 ..


MR HUMPHRIES (continuing):

Mr Speaker, I am advised that that is the appropriate award. If Mr Berry wants to move an amendment to the determination, I am very happy to entertain debate on that matter. But Mr Berry has not given any arguments in this debate about why the journalists award is better than the clerks award. If he does, we will be happy to engage him in debate on that subject.

Mr Berry says that there is conflict with the Workplace Relations Act. I have expressly asked for advice on that matter and it indicates that there is no conflict with the Workplace Relations Act. Mr Berry said at the beginning of his remarks that there was conflict with the Workplace Relations Act, but did not return-

Mr Berry: I said that there will be.

MR HUMPHRIES: Okay, there will be, but Mr Berry did not return in his speech to how that will occur.

Mr Berry: Yes, I told you.

MR HUMPHRIES: No, you did not.

Mr Berry: I said that there will be an application for an order in the commission to override this instrument.

MR SPEAKER: Order! You will get a chance to respond.

MR HUMPHRIES: My advice is that the matter is not currently before the commission.

Mr Berry: It is.

MR HUMPHRIES: I have my adviser here.

Mr Berry: It is being discussed in the commission. It is not the subject of a dispute, because it has not happened yet.

MR SPEAKER: Order! Mr Berry, be quiet! You will have a chance to respond.

MR HUMPHRIES: My advice is that the matter is not currently before the commission. My notes say that a union-I am not sure which union it is; I assume that it is the CPSU, but it may be the Media, Entertainment and Arts Alliance-had lodged a paper dispute to maintain coverage, but that matter has not been advanced in any way in the commission.

Mr Berry: It hasn't finished yet.

MR HUMPHRIES: It has not even begun, according to my notes.

Mr Berry: No, it says a paper dispute. That is a dispute.


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