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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2001 Week 4 Hansard (27 March) . . Page.. 983 ..

MR STANHOPE: Now we get to Mr Hird. Mr Stefaniak, who is here now, will agree with me on this: the Liberal Party will win two seats in Ginninderra. Who is it going to be, Bill? Who is going at the next election-you or Harold?

Mr Stefaniak: You never know. We both might get back.

MR STANHOPE: You both might be back, do you think? If you both get back, Bill, then there will be no women Liberal members in Ginninderra.

Mr Stefaniak: And there will not be any Labor ones if you and Wayne get back either, will there?

MR STANHOPE: We are not talking about that.

Mr Stefaniak: Oh, no!

MR STANHOPE: No, we are talking about Mrs Burke. I am prepared to talk about it. It is what Michael Kerrisk is talking about. Michael Kerrisk is being honest. He is saying Hare-Clark is hard for non-incumbents. He is saying we have 15 incumbent men in this place and it is going to be hard yakka. Who is going, Bill-you or Harold?

Mr Stefaniak: You or Wayne?

Mr Stanhope: No, what is the Liberal Party strategy? The Canberra Times has taken the Labor Party to task on this. I know that Ms Armitage is waiting for an explanation from either the leader of the Liberal Party or the secretary of the Liberal Party. I know she wants to report this. I know she wants to be even-handed and balanced. I know she wants to report on what the Liberal Party is going to do to ensure the election of more women. I know she wants to be even-handed. She has already written about the Labor Party. She has already taken us to task, and she is now waiting to take the Liberal Party to task and to examine its proposals for ensuring that Liberal Party women are elected.

We need to analyse who is going. Is it Bill or is it Harold? Is it Mr Cornwell or is it Gary, or is it Brendan Smyth? We also need to look at the honeypot effect that Mr Kaine's departure from the Liberal Party has had in Tuggeranong. I read incredulously that two of the out-of-seat Liberals that have nominated for Tuggeranong did so because of community of interest. They nominated in Tuggeranong because it is the only place they are sure a Liberal will pick up a seat. Let us get real about that.

MR SPEAKER: Order! The member's time has expired.

Canberra Raiders footballers

MR STEFANIAK (Minister for Education and Attorney-General) (5.50): That was absolutely fascinating. I am not even going to comment on it.

I rise very briefly to commend the actions of three Raiders who potentially saved the life of some poor innocent victim who was being brutally beaten outside a nightclub in Kingston. Their actions were not only timely but incredibly courageous, especially when, as I understand from media reports, one of the assailants produced a pistol. I think it is

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