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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2000 Week 6 Hansard (25 May) . . Page.. 1900 ..


MR KAINE (continuing):

If that is not a reflection on an earlier vote of this place, I do not know what it is, and it is in contravention of our standing orders. I do not think the fact that Mr Osborne was not here at the time in any way affects the outcome of that vote. It needs a ruling on your part, Mr Speaker, as to whether what the government is seeking to do is contrary to the standing orders of this place.

MR MOORE (Minister for Health and Community Care) (10.45): Mr Speaker, perhaps you could give your ruling afterwards because we have a limited time here. The reason why Mr Osborne stood is quite clear. It was to explain that he was unable to vote. It is consistent with our seeking to suspend standing orders because he seeks to have a vote on this particular matter.

Mr Kaine: That has nothing to do with the suspension of standing orders.

MR MOORE: Mr Kaine, I understand your position. You say we should have sought to adjourn the debate at the time.

Mr Corbell: And you didn't.

MR MOORE: We did.

Mr Kaine: You had the opportunity.

Mr Corbell: You did not move the adjournment.

MR MOORE: We did, Mr Kaine. We discussed this and it was made very clear to us that we would not be able to get an adjournment.

Mr Corbell: You did not move the adjournment, Mr Moore. At no stage did you move the adjournment. At no stage whatsoever did you move the adjournment.

Mr Humphries: Because you said you wouldn't support it. That's why.

MR SPEAKER: The house will come to order. Stop behaving like a bunch of schoolchildren and come to order.

Mr Corbell: You were never going to do it. It is an absolutely outrageous proposition.

MR MOORE: Mr Speaker, I have a limited time to speak and I seek to have this person named if he continues that sort of business.

Mr Corbell: It's absolutely outrageous, Mr Moore, and you know it.

MR SPEAKER: Order, please!. Let's have a sensible, mature, adult discussion.

MR

MOORE: Mr Speaker, the reality is that in a democratic process, if there is a vote that is considered by this house to have been taken and that vote of the 17 members of the Assembly is not accurate, we ought to redo it. In a democratic process, 17 members


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