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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2000 Week 3 Hansard (7 March) . . Page.. 572 ..


MR BERRY: No. Unlawful appropriation of money. Guilty. Guilty is the verdict there. Guilty is the verdict. You didn't come out of that one unscathed, did you, Michael? Come on, a bit more VITAB. Come on, come on. You are the people that are involved in illegal appropriation of money and you have been found guilty on that score.

Mr Moore: I have not been involved, nor has anybody here, in illegal appropriation of money.

MR BERRY: Mr Speaker, this is about hypocrisy. Let me go back to the powers of this Assembly and Mr Moore's involvement in a Cabinet which keeps these documents secret from the electorate.

Mr Moore: Mr Speaker, I am going to have to take a point of order and ask Mr Berry to withdraw the notion.

MR BERRY: I do not think he has the right. I have got leave, Mr Speaker.

Mr Moore: There is nobody on this bench who has been found guilty in any way of the illegal misappropriation of money.

Mr Corbell: On the point of order, Mr Speaker - - -

Mr Moore: I haven't finished yet. There is nobody here who has been found in any way to have been involved in the illegal misappropriation of money. You have already ruled on this and Mr Berry needs to withdraw that, Mr Speaker.

Mr Corbell: On the point of order, Mr Speaker: There are three legal advices. They have all said that the payments of money in relation to the development of Bruce Stadium were against the law. Therefore they were illegal, Mr Speaker.

Ms Carnell: Mr Speaker, that is not a point of order.

Mr Corbell: The Government can put whatever spin it likes on that, Mr Speaker, but the fact is that when those payments were made they were illegal.

MR SPEAKER: Order! That is not a point of order, Mr Corbell.

Mr Corbell: That is the point Mr Berry is making. There is no improper imputation. It is a matter of fact.

Mr Smyth: On a point of order, Mr Speaker: It is improper because since when does an opinion in law infer guilt?

MR SPEAKER: Just a moment, please.

MR BERRY: Mr Speaker, may I intervene to settle this? I will acknowledge that none of these people have been before a court and found guilty of anything, but if they did go before a court they would be.


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