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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1999 Week 13 Hansard (9 December) . . Page.. 4080 ..

MR KAINE (continuing):

I indicate quite strongly now, Mr Speaker, that in the interests of seeking to find a solution I will go along with the proposal by the Government insofar as the process is concerned, but at the end of the day I will not allow the Government to push its responsibility for budgets and budget outcomes onto me. I leave it to the rest of you to determine whether you are going to let them do it to you, but I will not sit quietly and allow them to do it to me. It is their budget. It will remain their budget. Until they change the process in such a way that we can effectively alter the budget and its outcomes, it remains their responsibility. End of story.

MR RUGENDYKE (11.56): Mr Speaker, I am on record as giving in-principle support to the idea of a trial budget and I am prepared to support Mr Humphries' motion to facilitate that trial budget for this budget period. I agree, though, that there should be constraints upon the discussion about the budget. I do not propose to support Ms Tucker's amendment for that reason. I think it is important for the operating result that the budget is not blown out, so we should work within what the Government's budget bottom line is deemed to be. I am prepared to go through this process as a trial. Later today we will be discussing another trial. I disagree with that one, but this one, Mr Speaker, I do agree with.

Question put:

That the amendment (Ms Tucker's ) be agreed to.

The Assembly voted -

AYES, 8  	NOES, 9

Mr Berry  	Ms Carnell
Mr Corbell 	Mr Cornwell
Mr Hargreaves  	Mr Hird
Mr Kaine 	Mr Humphries
Mr Quinlan 	Mr Moore
Mr Stanhope 	Mr Osborne
Ms Tucker 	Mr Rugendyke
Mr Wood 	Mr Smyth
		Mr Stefaniak

Question so resolved in the negative.

Question put:

That the motion (Mr Humphries' ) be agreed to.

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