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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1999 Week 13 Hansard (7 December) . . Page.. 3889 ..

MR HARGREAVES (continuing):

people. We do not want to say that we do not want to get people off the roads because they are drink-drivers. We do not want to encourage people to break the law; we never have. To take such a stance would be nothing short of irresponsible. I am staggered if those opposite think that we would go an inch down that road.

All we really seek to do is stop the denial of people's access to the courts; it is as simple as that. Anything else trotted out by this pack of people is nothing short of a red herring. To suggest that we are trying to negate the message that the Government is sending out there about drink-driving and misbehaviour on the road is totally untrue. I am merely trying to remove, through this amendment, the fact that a person cannot even apply.

The rest of the provisions in this legislation before us today have significantly greater penalties than before, which is great. It is appalling that the man who sits as Chairman of the Standing Committee on Justice and Community Safety and who is supposed to highlight the protection of civil rights and liberties is prepared to withdraw somebody's right to apply to the court for judgment. I merely ask people to recognise that we are trying to restore this ability to apply to the courts and to uphold the rest of the legislation.

MR SPEAKER: Members, I am not prepared to referee a ping-pong match in this chamber. We are adjourning at six for dinner - on the dot. If you want this piece of legislation finished before then, I suggest you all curb your tongues.

Amendment negatived.

Clause agreed to.

Remainder of Bill, by leave, taken as a whole.

MR SMYTH (Minister for Urban Services) (5.52): Mr Speaker, I ask for leave to move amendments 7 to 13 circulated in my name together.

Leave granted.

MR SMYTH: I move:

Clause 82, page 49, line 25, subclause (1), after "consent", insert "and without a reasonable excuse".

Clause 142, page 73, line 23, paragraphs (2) (d), (e), (f) and (g), omit the paragraphs, substitute the following paragraphs:

"(d) state the proposed bus fares; and

(e) state the kinds of vehicles proposed to be used; and

(f) state the proposed maximum speeds for each vehicle proposed to be used; and

(g) state any other details of the service that the road transport authority requires.".

Clause 156 -

Page 76, line 35, subclause (1), after "believes", insert "on reasonable grounds".

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