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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1999 Week 13 Hansard (7 December) . . Page.. 3808 ..


MR HARGREAVES (continuing):

Quite frankly, I think Mr Osborne's outburst this morning was inappropriate. It was not appropriate for a chair of a committee to run the line that he did. He took longer to talk about this than the committee did to discuss it. However, I must reiterate my agreement with him that we need to have that response. If we get that response we need to consider it in this Assembly. I am a little bit concerned, and I want my concern on the record, that we will not have had an opportunity as a committee to consider the response as a group; but, if that is the will of the Assembly, so be it.

MR STANHOPE (Leader of the Opposition): Pursuant to standing order 47 - - -

MR SPEAKER: No, members are speaking with the indulgence of the Assembly. I remind members that there is no question before the house.

MR STANHOPE: Well, with your indulgence, Mr Speaker. I wish to speak again, very shortly.

MR SPEAKER: Proceed.

MR STANHOPE: I think one of the unfortunate aspects of the report of the scrutiny of Bills committee is that it does not report on the extensive amendments which I will be moving to the Bill, hence my retort to Mr Kaine in relation to some of these issues. Many of these issues have been dealt with in extensive amendments. I think there are seven or eight pages of amendments to be moved to this Bill. They have been circulated and they go to some of the issues of concern. I need to say that in order to clarify some of the points Mr Kaine made. It is, perhaps, an unfortunate aspect of the way in which the scrutiny of Bills committee has reported on this issue that none of the amendments have been reported on.

Mr Moore: We need to change the standing orders actually.

MR STANHOPE: Yes, that is right.

Mr Kaine: Have the amendments been circulated? I have not seen them.

Mr Hird: No. So there is a good enough reason to have it adjourned.

MR STANHOPE: They certainly have been circulated. I just want to make the point that some of these issues have been dealt with. I need to respond to Mr Kaine and Mr Osborne in relation to the dramatic import which they give to these five points raised by the scrutiny of Bills committee. I have just been through each of them. Quite frankly and honestly, there is simply nothing in them. They are almost of no substance.

Mr Moore: They are worth considering because we need some minor modifications.


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