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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1999 Week 10 Hansard (13 October) . . Page.. 3052 ..

MR KAINE (continuing):

I know that gives the Government a stitch in terms of work commitment and perhaps an added cost. But I am making a judgment personally that added cost is only marginal and that it is an expenditure that is warranted and justified in order to satisfy the members of this place. I have tried to think the thing through logically. On balance I come down on Mr Quinlan's side, and will support his amendment.

MR QUINLAN: Mr Speaker, I understand that not all members are present in this place, so I do seek - - -

MR SPEAKER: That is right.

MR QUINLAN: No, I meant in the immediate vicinity of this place.

MR SPEAKER: In the building?

MR QUINLAN: In the building. Therefore, I seek leave to speak without actually closing the debate and then adjourn the matter for resumption later.

Ms Carnell: You can adjourn and then speak this afternoon.

MR QUINLAN: Well, why not just finish off the debate right now and then have the vote?

Ms Carnell: Because it would be good for Mr Osborne to be able to hear your eloquent words.

MR QUINLAN: He probably will not be in the house. Well, first of all I do seek leave - - -

MR SPEAKER: Is leave granted for Mr Quinlan to do as he proposed?

Mr Moore: He can speak now and then speak again at a stage later.

Ms Carnell: What he wants to do is close the debate so that we do not actually have the capacity to speak again.

Mr Kaine: Mr Speaker, we have done it for Mr Osborne.

MR QUINLAN: I just want to speak, but not close the debate until Ozzie - - -

Mr Moore: Speak but not close the debate. If we decide we want to speak again we would have to seek leave. Harold might want to speak, or something along those lines.

MR QUINLAN: Well, I guess I will seek leave to speak again.

Mr Moore: Yes, seek leave to speak without closing the debate.

MR QUINLAN: Yes, okay.

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