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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1999 Week 9 Hansard (1 September) . . Page.. 2722 ..


MR BERRY: Mr Speaker, may I make a statement pursuant to standing order 46?

MR SPEAKER: Yes, you may.

Ms Carnell: Just put it onto the notice paper every day.

MR BERRY: Mrs Carnell interjects, "Put it on the notice paper every day". If you did not make these sorts of personal attacks on me I would not be so hurt and have to rise in this place and respond to them. Mrs Carnell said, as if it were a fact, that I have made some anti-profit speeches and that I blanch at the sound of the word "profit", or words to that effect. I quite support profits, fair profits, for business, Mr Speaker. I cannot be accused of that. In fact, I think profitable businesses who play a socially just role in the community are welcome additions to our community.

Mrs Carnell would be right in saying that I do not support profit if it is profit that is gained from exploiting, say, the public purse or innocent workers. I would not support that, and I do not think any fair thinking person would, Mr Speaker. So I think she has misjudged me there, and rather cruelly.

Mr Speaker, I might as well do these in a batch because it is quicker. Mr Humphries said I supported the one in, all in wage system. I do support elements of one in, all in. I think there has to be some wage justice for workers out there. Many of the workers whom Mr Humphries is responsible for would know that he has just received a substantial pay rise, and they want some of that.

MR SPEAKER: Order! You are now no longer making a personal explanation.

MR BERRY: Where there is fair justification for one in, all in, well, I think the case can be made; but there are exceptions to the rule when workers can gain more than others, but comparative wage - - -

Ms Carnell: Mr Speaker, I take a point of order.

MR SPEAKER: You have made your personal explanation, thank you, Mr Berry. Sit down.

MR BERRY: I just make the point, Mr Speaker, that I wish they would stop these cruel attacks.

MR SPEAKER: Sit down.

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