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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1999 Week 7 Hansard (2 July) . . Page.. 2245 ..

MR STANHOPE: Oh, it is $39m? I am sure Mr Stefaniak told us tonight it was $1,750 a seat. I am sure that is what he said. I thought that is what I heard him say. I guess that is the point. There is just no openness or transparency in relation to the matter. Here we are now asking you to justify the bottom-line costs and you cannot or will not. You are just asking us, in relation to this project, which was just an appalling mess, to take what you say as a matter of faith, without producing to us any evidence of what you are going to do. You must have some idea of why you need $5m of working capital. Surely you could tell us.

Ms Carnell: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I have taken this point of order before. The $5m is not in the Bill in front of us. It is simply irrelevant to the debate on this Bill.

MR SPEAKER: Order! Mr Stanhope, I am going to interrupt you.

Debate interrupted.


Motion (by Mr Humphries ) agreed to, with the concurrence of an absolute majority:

That standing order 76 be suspended for the remainder of the sitting.


Debate resumed.

MR STANHOPE: I will conclude my comments there. I regret that we cannot support this Bill. We will not support it. The Government simply has not made any serious effort at providing us with the information that would have allowed members of this place to make the detailed assessment of the issues that they are entitled to make in order to rectify this terrible mistake, including a range of unlawful behaviours that this Government has committed over the last 18 months or so.

MS TUCKER (10.59): I think these questions that have been raised - and they have been raised in my office as well - are very serious questions. The fact that the Government would not even allow us to look at this Bill through convening a very quick Estimates Committee is just appalling. The Greens do not want to have any involvement with this. Mr Osborne and Mr Rugendyke are coopted. They can do all this work. That is fine. We do not have the answers we want to any questions.

I do not want to be associated with any of this. I supported a no-confidence motion on Wednesday. The way this Government has handled this whole issue is absolutely unacceptable, and I am absolutely stunned that we see the Government talking about an ethics commissioner. That is the final irony for me. So just go for it, guys.

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