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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1999 Week 7 Hansard (2 July) . . Page.. 2128 ..


Ms Carnell: No, there is not.

MR QUINLAN: Excuse me, I rang Mr Lilley this morning. He gave me a figure, $21.412m. You have just informed this house that the loans that are to be repaid are for $22.383241m, I think. Is that true? Do you want to try the "don't know" defence?

Ms Carnell: No. I am not in the business of answering questions from the floor. Interjections are out of order.

MR QUINLAN: If the members had been here, how could they be expected to pass the amendments to the Appropriation Bill if you are not going to tell them precisely what they are about?

Ms Carnell: We already have.

MR QUINLAN: No, you have not. Speaking of misinformation, I spoke to the Auditor-General this morning.(Quorum formed) Mr Speaker, yesterday the Chief Minister informed this house that she would get the Auditor-General to sign off on the amendments. I rang the Auditor-General this morning. He told me that what had been referred to him at 5 o'clock last night was the retrospective Bill on Bruce and that the amendments to the Appropriation Bill had not been referred to him. Can I repeat that for Hansard? The Auditor-General, shortly after 9 o'clock this morning, informed me that he had not been asked to look at numbers for the 1999-2000 amendment.

I did suggest that he call the Under Treasurer and have a look at those numbers because those numbers incorporate new money. They incorporate new money that has not been detailed to this Assembly. The first time this Assembly was informed as to the quantum of the loan to be repaid was in the Chief Minister's speech immediately before mine. She then gave a number which does not agree with the number that I was given by the Under Treasurer.

Ms Carnell: That is because you have not spoken to your staffer, who knows what that is because he has been briefed.

MR QUINLAN: What, in the last five minutes?

Ms Carnell: Sorry, what the difference between the $21m and the $22m is.

MR QUINLAN: What sort of show are we running here when you put up amendments to the Appropriation Bill that have no detail.

Mr Moore: How much information do you think we are going to provide to you guys if you will not even listen and you come down and give this sort of story?

MR QUINLAN: This is all factual.

Mr Moore: You want us to help you.


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