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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1999 Week 7 Hansard (1 July) . . Page.. 1928 ..

Mr Moore: I did not deny it. I did not deny it at all, Mr Speaker. I said that I do not think anybody heard it other than Mr Stanhope.

MR SPEAKER: I did not hear it.

Mr Moore: You did not hear it, Mr Speaker.

MS CARNELL: I think we should have a big debate on whether Mr Stanhope is a liar.

MR SPEAKER: Gentlemen, we have got a lot of business to do today and I think we should get this issue out of the way as fast as possible. Would you mind withdrawing, Mr Moore, and settle the matter and then the Chief Minister can get on with telling us the good news.

Mr Moore: Mr Speaker, because I recognise that this sort of statement has to be made in a substantive motion, I will withdraw it for the time being.

Mr Humphries: Mr Speaker, I have a point of order as well. Both Mr Berry and Mr Quinlan in the course of that exchange said that the comment that Mrs Carnell was a liar was true and I therefore ask them to withdraw that reference.

MR SPEAKER: Gentlemen, withdraw, please.

Mr Quinlan: Yes, I will do it happily.

Mr Berry: I withdraw whatever upsets Mr Humphries.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you.

Mr Moore: Is Mr Stanhope going to withdraw now, Mr Speaker? As you would be aware, Mr Stanhope used the opportunity, after demanding that I withdraw calling him a liar, of doing exactly the same thing himself. So, he is setting a different standard for everybody else. But we are used to that.

MR SPEAKER: Order! There is no point of order.

Mr Moore: I am just wondering whether he is going to withdraw the fact that he called me a liar. The point of order, Mr Speaker, was whether Mr Stanhope should remain duplicitous or whether he should withdraw calling me a liar.

Mr Berry: Can I move a motion, Mr Speaker, that we are all as pure as the driven snow?

MS CARNELL: It would not get up.

Mr Humphries: Who would second it? There is no-one who would second it.

MR SPEAKER: I am sure that you would breach standing orders, Mr Berry.

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