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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1999 Week 5 Hansard (6 May) . . Page.. 1436 ..


MR HUMPHRIES (continuing):

well lose their positions. Mr Stanhope presumes that without any evidence being produced in his 20 minutes or so of speaking to this place, without any evidence that what he has presumed is, in fact, the case.

Mr Speaker, I have seen the statutory declaration today from Mr Bender and I will read the bits that seem to be most likely to support the claim that Mr Stanhope has made. He "presumed" on radio this morning, but came in here and stated as a matter of fact, "Mr Humphries sent his staff to the home of Mr and Mrs Bender to advise them not to employ Mr Collaery as their legal counsel". Where is the basis for this claim? Let us look at the statutory declaration of Mr Bender. I quote:

... said she was a lawyer working for Gary Humphries.

Mr Moore: Can we go back to the names?

MR HUMPHRIES: Mr Speaker, I withdraw the reference to that name and I ask that the record not include the name that I have just read out. Is leave granted for that to be the case?

Leave granted.

MR HUMPHRIES: The statutory declaration reads:

X said she was a lawyer working for Gary Humphries. She said that we would need a lawyer and she could help.

Mr Speaker, where is the assertion in there that I instructed this person to go to the home of Mr and Mrs Bender? It is not there. If this statement was made, it is a perfectly accurate statement - she was a lawyer working for Gary Humphries. Mr Speaker, that is perfectly true; there is nothing inaccurate about that. The third paragraph of this statutory declaration says:

X came another time with ... who I knew.

Mr Moore: Once again we are not using names.

MR HUMPHRIES: Okay. I ask that that name also not be recorded in Hansard, Mr Speaker.

Leave granted.

MR HUMPRHIES: It reads:

X came another time with Y who I knew. Both X and Y said they had heard that Bernard Collaery was to be our lawyer and that we should not make him our lawyer. Both said that he was not a good lawyer. All of us except Mrs Bender were present when they called; she arrived later.


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