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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1999 Week 4 Hansard (22 April) . . Page.. 1206 ..


Mr Moore: No, go for it.

MS TUCKER: Sensitive, Mr Moore. Okay. So I am not allowed to criticise Mr Moore because then we can never work together again.

Mr Moore: No, you cannot call me a liar, but you can get stuck into me in any other way.

MS TUCKER: Excellent.

Mr Berry: You cannot call him that. Everybody knows that.

MS TUCKER: I am putting on the record what has happened because I am sick and tired of Mr Moore's version of it.

Mr Moore: I raise a point of order. Mr Berry has just said that you cannot call Mr Moore that because everybody knows that. In his interjection he is now calling me a liar. I think this is entirely inappropriate, Mr Temporary Deputy Speaker. We do not need this sort of stuff. Of course we can have a vigorous debate. I do not mind having a vigorous debate with Ms Tucker on the issues, but we do not need to lower the standards like that. I think Mr Berry should withdraw that interjection.

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Thank you, Mr Moore. Mr Berry, you should know better.

Mr Berry: Well, I saw his form on education.

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr Berry, do you withdraw?

Mr Berry: I withdraw it.

Mr Humphries: Mr Berry has, in effect, made a further allegation on education.

Mr Berry: No, no. I said - - -

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! I am listening to the Minister.

Mr Humphries: Mr Berry's comments in respect of that should also be withdrawn.

Mr Berry: I will not be withdrawing "they saw his form on education". I withdraw any imputation, Mr Temporary Deputy Speaker.

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Thank you, Mr Berry.

MS TUCKER: I will move on. I do want to make clear what I am saying because Mr Moore is obviously very offended that I have said this, but at that forum there was not a real seeking of common ground. Some people who were recovering addicts said the only way to do this is abstinence. Other recovering addicts said we need harm minimisation; we need a safe injecting room. Some people in the community said harm minimisation is a flawed policy; we need zero tolerance. All the positions were flagged.


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