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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1998 Week 10 Hansard (24 November) . . Page.. 2762 ..

MS CARNELL (continuing):

Recommendation 5 at least has something to do with money - $15,000, Mr Speaker, out of a budget of $1.4 billion. At least there is something to do with expenditure in it, even if the issue has been well traversed and it did not bring up any new information whatsoever.

Recommendation 6 has been spoken about at length. I have to say, Mr Speaker, that all I could do was smile at Mr Corbell, because he certainly is learning from Mr Berry inasmuch as he has learnt to have no shame whatsoever when he gets up and speaks. His remarks that it is this side of the house that has made comments of a negative nature about public servants are obviously wrong, Mr Speaker, and I would suggest to Mr Corbell that he have a look at Hansard to ensure that he was not making comments that were not based upon fact. Mr Speaker, recommendation 6 is serious. It is serious because we have been seeing more and more of this of recent days. You made a comment just last week in this Assembly about members having a look at a particular resolution of this Assembly with regard to negative comments about public servants, yet we have a report the following week doing exactly that and we see both Mr Berry and Mr Corbell getting up and reinforcing those comments. I do not believe that that is appropriate; nor does the Government. In fact, Mr Speaker, we believe - - -

Mr Corbell: Hypocrite.

MS CARNELL: Mr Speaker, I ask for that to be withdrawn.

Mr Berry: No, "hypocrite" is okay.

MS CARNELL: No, it is not.

MR SPEAKER: Just a moment; I will make that decision. I think you will find that it is not. No, I cannot allow "hypocrite". Please withdraw it.

MS CARNELL: Thank you very much, Mr Speaker.

Mr Berry: Is it listed? I thought "hypocrite" was okay. I think he could do much better than that.

MR SPEAKER: I am sure that one could; nevertheless, I do not want to allow "hypocrite". Please withdraw it, Mr Berry.

MS CARNELL: No, it was Mr Corbell.

Mr Berry: I would be happy to withdraw it if I said it.

Mr Corbell: In deference to you, Mr Speaker, I withdraw the word.

MR SPEAKER: I apologise. It is just that you suddenly took up the debate, Mr Berry. Thank you, Mr Corbell.

Mr Berry: I apologise, Mr Speaker.

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