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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1998 Week 5 Hansard (26 August) . . Page.. 1360 ..


Mr Berry: Mr Speaker, relevance.

MR SPEAKER: He is developing that.

Mr Berry: I am sure he is developing it, but we cannot hold our breath for that long.

MR SPEAKER: There is no point of order. Go on, Mr Humphries.

MR HUMPHRIES: If you have such a strong case, Mr Berry, then you do not use those sorts of tactics to advance your cause.

Mr Berry: What are you talking about? I said that I am worried about 2,000 women.

MR HUMPHRIES: Running around telling people that there has been a deal done between Mr Osborne and the Liberal Party. You have said on the floor of this place already today that a deal was done between the Liberal Party and Mr Osborne; that in exchange for his support on the censure motion yesterday we would support him bringing on his Bill early. That is rubbish. That is nonsense. I reject it. You should stop peddling those lies if you expect to get any sort of cooperation from this party in this place. Mr Speaker, my party is - - -

Mr Berry: Mr Speaker, that is an imputation that he has to withdraw.

MR SPEAKER: It is an imputation.

Mr Berry: Withdraw it.

MR SPEAKER: Please.

MR HUMPHRIES: If Mr Berry wants me to withdraw something, I withdraw it.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you.

MR HUMPHRIES: Mr Speaker, if Mr Berry wanted to make those sorts of claims, that is fine, but do not expect to come back to us and say, "Please, will you help us do something that we want to do in respect of manipulation of the work of the Assembly". Mr Speaker, I am reminded that it was not so long ago that Mr Berry, with others in this place, voted to ensure that a particular Bill of the Government's was brought on for debate at a time not of the Government's choosing. I am thinking particularly of the community referendum legislation that was dealt with in 1995. Mr Berry at that stage was not interested in talking to other members of this party about cooperation on the management of the program. Mr Speaker, I have no intention today of talking to Mr Berry about cooperation with him on a related subject.

MR STANHOPE (Leader of the Opposition) (3.11): Mr Speaker, I think Mr Humphries spent his time in opposing this motion to explain why he does not think the people of Canberra should have an opportunity to express their views on this issue. A great concern that we have is this - - -


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