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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1998 Week 5 Hansard (25 August) . . Page.. 1305 ..

MR STANHOPE (continuing):

I think the points that have been made are relevant. This matter does go to the heart of the way business is done. This matter does go to the heart of the way this community thinks about this institution. The point has been made often that if we as an Assembly do not take that step of actually censuring, only censuring in a way, Ministers who come into this place and who do quite deliberately mislead and who are, I think, so unthinking of their responsibilities that they actually do not take advice from public servants, that they actually feel that they can distance themselves and abandon their responsibility by not accepting responsibility for the advice that their servants have, then we have truly arrived at a dismal point for this Assembly - that, in fact, misleads are acceptable; that you can come into this place and not tell the truth and get away with it. That would be an appalling result today.

MR SPEAKER: Order! The member's time has expired.

Question put:

That the motion (Mr Stanhope's) be agreed to.

The Assembly voted -

AYES, 8	 	NOES, 9

Mr Berry	Ms Carnell
Mr Corbell	Mr Cornwell
Mr Hargreaves	Mr Hird
Mr Kaine	Mr Humphries
Mr Quinlan	Mr Moore
Mr Stanhope	Mr Osborne
Ms Tucker	Mr Rugendyke
Mr Wood		Mr Smyth
		Mr Stefaniak
Question so resolved in the negative.


MR BERRY (6.34): I seek leave to move a motion which has been circulated in relation to the absence of a declaration of a landmark debate in relation to the censure motion this day.

Leave granted.

MR BERRY: I move:

That this Assembly dissents from the decision of the Speaker to not authorise the debate on the censure motion this day as a landmark debate.

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