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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1996 Week 14 Hansard (11 December) . . Page.. 4719 ..

Ms Tucker: Can I argue that, or do I just have to accept it? I would like to argue that there is actually relevance.

MR SPEAKER: The only way you can do it is by moving dissent from my ruling; but you will need leave to do so, Ms Tucker.

Ms Tucker: I understand the Speaker's point; but I do not agree with it.

Mr Moore: You can speak to that while you are speaking to the motion.

Ms Tucker: I will seek to amend my amendment.

MR SPEAKER: Yes; or, indeed, this particular amendment that you have attempted to move can always be moved as a substantive motion at some other time, and then the Assembly would debate it out.

Ms McRae: Mr Speaker, on a point of order: Perhaps you could give Ms Tucker guidance as to what would be permitted. If she has no idea of what is not permitted, perhaps you could give her guidance.

MR SPEAKER: I am not too sure what - - -

Ms McRae: How can you rule it out of order if you are not too sure, Mr Speaker? You must know either what is in order or what is out of order. I think a bit of guidance to Ms Tucker might be helpful.

MR SPEAKER: I am not sure what Ms Tucker is now seeking to propose to amend her amendment. That is the problem I have. What you have here is out of order. If you wish to move an amendment, we would have to entertain it. The Clerk informs me that you have not moved your amendment - that is perfectly true - and you are at liberty to move another amendment. But I am not sure what exactly you propose.

Ms Tucker: I will have to quickly write it out so that it can be circulated.

MR SPEAKER: All right; that is fine. In the meantime, the question is: That the motion be agreed to.

Mr Berry: I would be closing the debate, would I not?

MR SPEAKER: You would be, Mr Berry. So, if anybody else would like to contribute to the debate, feel free.

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