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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1996 Week 12 Hansard (21 November) . . Page.. 4135 ..

MS REILLY (continuing):

wrong with the whole system when getting out of Quamby by going over the fence is a challenge or part of some sort of initiation ceremony. I understand that some people have done it a number of times, so I presume it goes beyond an initiation. You wonder what sorts of programs are running inside Quamby that cause this sort of response.

I think it would be interesting to have an investigation into our juvenile justice system. You also have to look at the lack of programs for juveniles in the system who are in non-residential situations. There might be a number of parole officers or other people employed, but there appear to be very few programs to ensure that alternatives are offered to those kids who come through the juvenile justice system. A lot of the children or young people who go through Quamby you eventually see in the Belconnen Remand Centre awaiting sentencing to the big persons' gaol across the border. We need to look at the graduation from Quamby to other areas of the justice system. It seems such a loss to the community when that happens. Why are we erecting an electric fence when we have not evaluated the education programs that are running? They are a very good initiative, but we did not wait to see what impact they were going to have. Rather than just sticking in an electric fence, why do we not have programs that look at why detainees feel the need to escape?

Proposed expenditure agreed to.

Part 17 - Canberra Institute of Technology

Proposed expenditure - Canberra Institute of Technology, $57,262,000 - agreed to.

Part 18 - Treasurer's Advance

Proposed expenditure - Treasurer's Advance, $13,600,000 - agreed to.

Remainder of Bill, by leave, taken as a whole

Question put:

That the remainder of the Bill be agreed to.

The Assembly voted -

AYES, 8	 	NOES, 7

Mrs Carnell	Mr Berry
Mr Cornwell	Ms Follett
Mr De Domenico	Ms Horodny
Mr Hird		Ms McRae
Mr Kaine	Ms Reilly
Mr Moore	Ms Tucker
Mr Osborne	Mr Whitecross
Mr Stefaniak

Question so resolved in the affirmative.

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