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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1996 Week 11 Hansard (26 September) . . Page.. 3461 ..


Mr Humphries: Not one cent.

MR DE DOMENICO: Not one cent. Secondly, Mr Berry - and listen very carefully to this one - based on indicative estimates, the proposal will provide jobs for approximately 60 young unemployed people. It is estimated that each of these young people will be employed for 26 weeks at an average of 16 hours per week. These are the people, Mr Berry, who would not otherwise be working. These estimates include all award allowances, occupational health and safety requirements, training, equipment and materials.

Mr Moore: Yes, 15 full-time equivalent jobs.

MR DE DOMENICO: Mr Moore, I suggest that you listen, too. All of the $700,000 will go towards labour costs, the vast majority - I am advised, approximately 75 per cent - of it on wages. In relation to Mr Berry's specific questions, yes, training will be provided to the young people at approximately $750 per person. Yes, equipment costs of approximately $1,417 per person are included and protective clothing costs of approximately $305 per employee are included as well. Mr Berry might like to go on record in this chamber today and say that he does not believe that this program is worth while. I wish he would do that, if that is what he believes. He may wish to show his true colours, and rather than making ill-informed fishing trips - - -

Mr Moore: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Particularly today, when we have less than a half-hour for question time, under standing order 118 answers should be concise and, not a ministerial statement, which is what he is making.

MR SPEAKER: I do not uphold the point of order. Mr Kaine asked Mr De Domenico whether there was any substance to the allegations raised in questions yesterday by the Opposition. As I recall and as you would recall, Mr Moore, they were most detailed questions yesterday.

Mr Kaine: On that point of order, Mr Speaker: I am finding the Minister's response most informative and most substantial.

Mr Moore: On the point of order, Mr Speaker, and your response, I point out that standing order 122 says that the answer to a question on notice shall be given by delivering it to the Clerk, not by this backdoor method.

MR SPEAKER: Mr Kaine asked whether there was any substance to the questions raised yesterday. That is a perfectly legitimate question.

Ms Follett: Mr Speaker, on that point of order: The answer that the Minister is giving today is the answer that, in substance, he should have given to Mr Berry yesterday had he had the information. In fact, he took the question on notice. The information that he is giving today, minus the snide comments and misrepresentation of Mr Berry, will be the information that he gives to Mr Berry in reply to his question on notice. It is out of order, I assure you.


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