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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1996 Week 10 Hansard (5 September) . . Page.. 3152 ..

MR BERRY: Mr De Domenico says, "No, it is not the policy". I take it - - -

MR SPEAKER: Is this a supplementary question?

MR BERRY: Indeed it is, Mr Speaker. You might have recognised it because it follows the substantive one.

MR SPEAKER: Mr Berry, you must understand that, if you want to take a point of order, you say "point of order"; if you wish to ask a supplementary question, you say "supplementary question".

MR BERRY: Indeed. If one raises a point of order one expects the person whose behaviour - - -

MR SPEAKER: Except that you did not say you were taking a point of order; you just got up and started talking.

Mr Kaine: On a point of order, Mr Speaker - - -

MR BERRY: Sit down, you silly old goat. Mr Speaker, if redundancies - - -

MR SPEAKER: Sit down. There is a point of order.

Mr Kaine: Mr Speaker, I would like to take a point of order. The member is not entitled to argue with you about your ruling. Tell him to sit down or invite him to leave.

MR SPEAKER: I uphold the point of order, Mr Kaine. Do you have a supplementary question, Mr Berry?

MR BERRY: Indeed I do, Mr Speaker. If redundancies are not normally paid for out of the central redundancy pool, is not the Government's decision to pay for the redundancies for staff transferring from Works and Commercial Services an acknowledgment that this is not necessarily in the best commercial interests of Totalcare and really is a sneaky way of shifting responsibility for sacking workers to somebody else?

MR DE DOMENICO: Once again, the press release has probably already gone out, Mr Speaker. Mr Berry says that we are going to sack workers. For Mr Berry's edification and for his - - -

Mr Berry: You just reminded me; it had slipped my mind for a minute.

MR DE DOMENICO: No; put out the press release. This is for Mr Berry's edification, because he needs to learn a lot of things. If Mr Berry were around his shadow portfolio responsibilities as he always makes believe that he is, he would realise that every worker going from DUS to Totalcare is still subject to the Public Sector Management Act.

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