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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1996 Week 8 Hansard (27 June) . . Page.. 2259 ..

Mr Berry: Well, there is limited time. It is only a half-hour extension.

Mr De Domenico: Yes, we know that.

MR SPEAKER: Is leave granted to Ms Horodny? We are wasting time now. Is leave granted?

Government members: Yes.

MR SPEAKER: Yes. Proceed quickly.

Mr Kaine: Keep ripping it into them, Lucy. While you keep ripping it into them we will give you extensions.

MS HORODNY: Yes. Ms McRae and the ALP have said, "Why do we need another report because there already have been dozens of reports?". Well, there may well have been dozens of reports, Ms McRae, but have any of them looked at the combined effect of what is happening at the moment? We have had separate reports that have not looked at the total issue, and that is what is absolutely essential. We need to look at the combined effect of what has been happening since 1992, and that is expanding space and extended hours. It is absolutely critical that we do this.

I am afraid that as a scientist I hold no credence in this petition which simply says, "The petition of certain residents of the ACT". The petition that I hold in front of me, Mr Speaker, includes residents from Forbes. That seems to contravene the requirement that the petition pertain to residents of the ACT. It includes people from Forbes and Bungendore. I do not see what relevance that has.

Ms Follett: Mr Speaker, on a point of order: I believe that now that Ms Horodny has been given an extension of time she ought to remain relevant. We listened before to her speaking about the activities of David Jones in Queensland and Victoria and how this was somehow an indictment of former Labor governments. I let that go. But when she starts debating the petition which has already been submitted to the Assembly, I believe that that is not relevant to her motion, and it is her motion. If she is just going to waffle on about irrelevancies, I suggest you sit her down.

MS HORODNY: Mr Speaker, I am addressing issues that previous speakers have covered. Mr Moore made much - - -

MR SPEAKER: Order! There is no point of order. You have drawn attention to deficiencies in the petition, obviously, that would have to be examined if we were going to do so; but I would ask you to please bear in mind that we are finishing at 12.30 pm unless the Assembly wishes to extend the time.

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