Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1995 Week 10 Hansard (7 December) . . Page.. 2807 ..
MR WOOD: Mr Speaker, my question is to the Chief Minister in her capacity as managing public service matters. Chief Minister, now that you have revealed that 20 to 25 jobs will be lost as a result of the Cullen Egan Dell report, will you also reveal what pay increases the survivors can expect? Will it be more or less than 20 per cent as in the Commonwealth, and how does this compare with the derisory one per cent pay offer to the rest of the ACT public service?
MRS CARNELL: The derisory one per cent pay increase was a pay increase that was not traded off against anything, Mr Wood. In other words, it was real, up-front money for Christmas that the unions, for whatever reason, determined they did not want for their members. A trade-off that senior public servants might be involved in will be a trade-off for tenure. As I explained earlier, and I will explain again, the Cullen Egan Dell approach has resized the ACT Government Service. Their final report will be available, I hope, in the near future. It will mean, as I think I have even said in the media, that all senior executive jobs will not be at the levels that they are at now; that all agency heads will not be at the same levels; that those jobs - - -
Ms Follett: How much?
MRS CARNELL: They are being resized, so you simply cannot say what the increase will be. I can guarantee for Ms Follett that it will be substantially less than 20 per cent when we get to that stage. This has to be the basis of making sure we have everything on the table for the people involved.
I ask that all further questions be placed on the notice paper.
MRS CARNELL: May I make a personal explanation?
MR SPEAKER: Yes, under standing order 46.
Mr Connolly: Yes, I would if I were you.
MRS CARNELL: No, I do not think I would, from your perspective, Mr Connolly. The papers that Mr Connolly tabled earlier, which he suggested were some papers that I was party to in some way, turn out to be working party recommendations. As we see from this, the working parties are groups that have been set up in each area of the hospital to look at the implementation of Booz Allen. Mr Connolly suggested that they were my documents. In fact, I think he said that they were my documents. I have to say that I am not on any of the working parties. The working parties are made up of people who work in those particular areas and union representatives. I am not at any of the meetings.