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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1995 Week 9 Hansard (23 November) . . Page.. 2427 ..

Mr Hird: Yes, I did.

MR BERRY: The trouble is, Mr Hird, that you were too frightened to turn up and face the people.

MR SPEAKER: Relevance.

MR BERRY: This illustrates the spineless approach which has been taken by the Liberals in relation to this matter. Mr Speaker, I think that the community is fully aware that they have been abandoned by the Liberals in relation to health care. Mrs Carnell worries now about dollars. Of course, in Opposition she pretended to worry about people. Well might you tell Mr Hird to shut up. He ought to be embarrassed about his performance in the Ginninderra electorate. He has done nothing to defend them.

MR SPEAKER: Order! Relevance.

MR BERRY: This member of the Liberal Government has done nothing to defend the people of Ginninderra. Neither has his colleague Mr Stefaniak, aside from reminding them of the Liberal Party's attitude to their position on the provision of services in their electorate.

Mr Moore: At least Bill Stefaniak was there.

MR BERRY: He was there, and he did come down and remind the people that the Liberals thought they were a bunch of nervous twits.

Mr De Domenico: I take a point of order, Mr Speaker. Are we talking about the Ginninderra electorate and Mr Stefaniak's presence at a rent-a-crowd rally on Saturday, or are we talking about the budget, Mr Speaker?

MR BERRY: No, we are talking about the Kippax Health Centre.

MR SPEAKER: I thought we were discussing the budget, Mr De Domenico.

MR BERRY: Indeed we are, Mr Speaker, because the survival of the Kippax Health Centre, the Melba Health Centre and community health centres throughout the ACT is dependent on this budget. This budget does not offer the security that the people in Ginninderra require. Mr Hird and Mr Stefaniak are not giving them any help either. All they are doing is reminding the community of what has been the Liberals' attitude to them. Mr Speaker, the health centres will go. The salaried medical officers are on the way.

MR SPEAKER: And so will you, because your time has expired.

MR BERRY: Mr Speaker, the Liberals have to wear this.

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