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I reiterate: Let the Government have an opportunity to tell the Assembly what they want to do, why they want to do it, and what they have done so far. Not only is that a logical, reasonable and sensible process; I also point out, Mr Speaker, that what Ms Horodny is doing is contrary to our own standing orders. I refer you, Mr Speaker, to standing order 174, which reads:

Immediately after a bill has been agreed to in principle a Member may move that the bill be referred to a select or standing committee.

If we agree to this - - -

Mr Berry: Are you going to rule on that, Mr Speaker?

MR KAINE: If Mr Berry agrees to this motion he is setting aside the standing orders that he himself helped to put in place here. Where is the rationality, the reason and the logic behind that?

Mr Berry: Is that a point of order?

MR KAINE: The point is that Mr Berry does not even understand his own standing orders. If Ms Horodny had brought this up at a - - -

Mr Berry: I take a point of order. Mr Speaker, I thought I heard Mr Kaine raise a point of order.

MR SPEAKER: He did not raise a point of order.

Mr Berry: I think he said that this was out of order, pursuant to standing order 174.

MR SPEAKER: He drew my attention to the standing orders, and I am checking them. Please continue, Mr Kaine.

MR KAINE: I did indeed, Mr Speaker, and I draw Mr Berry's attention to it, too, because obviously he is unaware of his own standing orders. Not only is there a considerable lack of logic and rationality in what Ms Horodny is proposing; it also cuts across our standing orders. For that reason, Mr Speaker, I will not support this proposal.

Mr Berry: Would you care to rule on that, Mr Speaker, because it might affect some other speakers?

MR SPEAKER: I draw members’ attention to the motion that has been put forward by Ms Horodny, particularly paragraph (5). I quote:

The foregoing provisions of this resolution, so far as they are inconsistent with the standing orders, have effect notwithstanding anything contained in the standing orders.

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