Page 3677 - Week 12 - Thursday, 13 October 1994

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MADAM TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr Stevenson, is this a point of order, or are you speaking about the subject of the debate?

MR STEVENSON: I am debating the matter. I am talking about the decision on a censure motion and whether or not you can hear the points that are being made.

MADAM TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Would you speak to the censure motion, Mr Stevenson.

MR STEVENSON: Indeed, and whether or not I can hear the debate.

MADAM TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Not about whether you can hear or not, Mr Stevenson.

MR STEVENSON: I will make the point that I was making earlier. It is important to be able to hear it. Mrs Carnell came up - - -

MADAM TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: You have made that point, Mr Stevenson. I ask you to continue.

MR STEVENSON: I have not finished yet.

MADAM TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: You have made the point.

MR STEVENSON: You cannot say that, because I have not finished it.

MADAM TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: You have made the point about not being able to hear. Would you now keep to the subject.

MR STEVENSON: Mrs Carnell came up before and wanted to mention a couple of points. I said, "I am sorry; I cannot hear". That was when I was listening to Mr Humphries. That was not the first time. I kept it even. It is a bit grim when, firstly, we cannot hear and, secondly, when a fair attitude is not taken by the Chair.

Ms Follett: Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker - - -

MR STEVENSON: So, regarding the definition of beds - - -

MADAM TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr Stevenson, there is a point of order.

Ms Follett: On a point of order, Madam Temporary Deputy Speaker: Mr Stevenson has cast a reflection on the Chair which he must withdraw.

MADAM TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Yes; I ask you to withdraw that, Mr Stevenson. I was not in the chair at the time. You have reflected on the Speaker, and I would ask you to withdraw that.


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