Page 3322 - Week 11 - Thursday, 22 September 1994

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MADAM SPEAKER: I am upholding the Chief Minister's point of order. The house has clearly made its will felt that they wish to proceed with suspending standing orders and debating this issue.

MRS CARNELL: It is my motion. I have not asked for that.

Mr Berry: She does not want to debate it.

MRS CARNELL: Very dangerous, Wayne.

Mr Humphries: Madam Speaker, are you ruling that Mrs Carnell cannot complete her answer?

MADAM SPEAKER: Order! The house will come to order. Mr Humphries, do you have a point of order? I will listen to it.

Mr Humphries: I have a question, Madam Speaker. Are you ruling that Mrs Carnell may not complete her answer to the question?

MADAM SPEAKER: What I am suggesting is that Mrs Carnell has debated the issue for long enough. If Mrs Carnell can finish her question without debating the issue, she may proceed. Proceed, Mrs Carnell.

MRS CARNELL: Thank you. New South Wales has 59 hospitals with paediatric beds and almost 1,500 designated public - - -

MADAM SPEAKER: Mrs Carnell, will you please finish your answer? You are out of order.

MRS CARNELL: I am not debating the issue at all. New South Wales has almost 1,500 designated paediatric beds. Given this massive disparity, which the Minister denies and even went so far as to possibly mislead the community about the need for a paediatrics ward, it is clear that the debate should be brought forward as a matter of urgency before the Minister does any more damage.

Ms Follett: So, bring it on. We are waiting.

Mr Lamont: Bring it on; here it is. Here is the opportunity. You are guaranteed nine votes. Do you have the guts to get up and do it? You sit down and say nothing. You do not have the guts to debate it.

Mr Kaine: Would you tell the Minister not to tell people to sit down.

MADAM SPEAKER: Please do not do that, Mr Lamont.


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