Page 3166 - Week 11 - Tuesday, 20 September 1994

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Mrs Carnell: The majority.

MR BERRY: The majority. My apologies.

Mr Moore: On a point of order, Madam Speaker: I had said nothing of the kind, and I consider that Mr Berry is misleading this Assembly.

MR BERRY: You had expressed sympathy for Mrs Carnell's point of view, and publicly.

Mr Moore: I certainly had not. I think he is misleading the Assembly.

MADAM SPEAKER: Mr Berry, I asked you to withdraw.

MR BERRY: I withdraw any imputation against Mr Moore on this particular subject.

MADAM SPEAKER: Thank you. That is what I understood from your explanation.

MR STEVENSON (9.46): I will just cover some of the results of the survey that we did. Of a total of 879 people surveyed, 627 were non-smokers, 249 were smokers and three did not say.

Mr Connolly: How many did you poll?

MR STEVENSON: We polled 879.

Mr Connolly: That is more than the Canberra Times polls.

MR STEVENSON: That is not surprising. Apart from restaurants, we asked about clubs. Forty-seven per cent said that there should be separate smoking areas in clubs, 24 per cent said that smoking in clubs should be banned outright by law, another 24 per cent said that it should be determined by the people running the club, and 3 per cent were informal. There was a fairly dramatic difference between the number of people who felt that smoking in a restaurant should be banned by law - 37 per cent - and the number of people who felt that in a club it should be banned by law - 24 per cent.

MR DE Domenico (9.47): Madam Speaker, I listened very carefully to what Mr Berry had to say. I was trying to find some fibre of logic or commonsense in his argument. Mr Berry said things like this: An individual - - -

Mr Berry: They measured 226 times the accepted level of carcinogens - things like that.

MR DE Domenico: By the way, I note, Madam Speaker, that Mr Berry was heard in silence, because we were listening carefully for the logic in his argument. Listening to Mr Berry in silence, we heard him say, for example, that someone had a right to blow smoke in someone else's face in a bar at the Labor Club. If you blow smoke in someone's face in a bar at the Labor Club, that is fine; but, if you blow the same smoke in the same person's face at Fringe Benefits, it is not all right. That was one point that came out loud and clear from Mr Berry.


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