Page 2128 - Week 07 - Thursday, 16 June 1994

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MRS CARNELL: We might have to do it again if you continue to misrepresent me. On the basis of submissions we have had, this would actually increase services and make services more flexible. In the area of nursing home beds, the Chief Minister said that we were - - -

MADAM SPEAKER: Mrs Carnell, you are debating the matter.

MRS CARNELL: No, I am not. I am stating what she said and what was the truth. How else can I do it?

Mr Berry: Madam Speaker, there has been an imputation about the truth there, and I would ask you to order that that be withdrawn. Mrs Carnell might understand that every time you jump on standing order 46 or standing order 47, you get yourself into deeper water.

MADAM SPEAKER: Mrs Carnell, I will let you explain. I do not believe that you were meaning to impute anything like that.

MRS CARNELL: No.

MADAM SPEAKER: All right; you withdraw that then. I believe that what is being said to me is that, if you juxtapose one matter against another, that is debating the matter. The intent of this standing order is for you to present your set of facts in your own - - -

MRS CARNELL: How can I explain?

MADAM SPEAKER: You can offer the explanation without debate, without juxtaposing. That is, I believe, what I am being asked to interpret. Can you do it in that way?

MRS CARNELL: Yes. Our approach to nursing home beds is that we will sell Jindalee nursing home but, as I said in my speech, we will establish two new 80-bed facilities in partnership with the not-for-profit sector.

The most important area where I was misrepresented was in the area of figures. Page 108 of the budget papers, which were referred to earlier, shows out-turn prices. I am confident that the Chief Minister is aware that out-turn prices - - -

Mr Berry: This is getting to be an extension of the debate.

MRS CARNELL: This is a straight explanation.

Mr De Domenico: Sit down. Do you want to hear the truth or don't you?

MADAM SPEAKER: Order! Nobody was talking about the truth. Mrs Carnell is trying to point out her version of the facts. Would you continue, Mrs Carnell, and stick to the facts.


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