Page 2094 - Week 07 - Thursday, 16 June 1994
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MR BERRY (4.33): I move:
That so much of the standing and temporary orders be suspended as would prevent Mr Berry from moving forthwith a motion to require Mrs Carnell to table the alternative budget mentioned in her speech.
It has been brought to my attention that a messenger was sent to Mrs Carnell's office after an invitation from the Opposition benches to request a copy. We have been denied a copy. I am forced, therefore, to move to suspend so much of the standing orders as would prevent us from getting a copy.
MR KAINE (4.35): Madam Speaker, I am sure that Mr Berry is only having a little bit of a joke. We are in the middle of a debate on the Government's budget. That is what this debate is about. I suggest that to suspend standing orders and to begin a debate that goes off at a tangent is merely a ploy to take the focus off this terrible budget that this Government has brought down, because they do not want to hear any more about it. I think it is a travesty. I think the motion should be put to the vote immediately and voted down.
MR MOORE (4.35): Madam Speaker, Mrs Carnell decided during her speech to present an alternative. Therefore, it is quite appropriate that we debate both issues. In fact, the message I got was that in some of the comments I made I had misrepresented some of the things she said. I apologise if I have misrepresented some of the things she said, but I also asked for a copy of this so that I would not be put in a position where I would be doing that. Mrs Carnell is not here and she has not distributed her alternative budget speech. I cannot see any possible reason why she would want to do anything else. I think Mr Berry's motion is a very sensible thing. I hope that we do not need it. The simple solution is for Mrs Carnell to walk in here and to distribute the alternative budget, her budget speech - however she wants to present it. We would then have no problem. It is reasonable in a debate. Normal debating practice is that if somebody introduces a new concept it is quite right that people who are following should have the opportunity to respond to it. It is that opportunity that we seek. If it is the case, Madam Speaker, that I have in some way misrepresented what is in it, I would be quite happy to take time to correct any misrepresentation.
MR HUMPHRIES (4.37): Madam Speaker, I seek leave to table the reply to the budget which Mrs Carnell delivered about half an hour ago.
Leave granted.
Motion (Mr Berry's), by leave, withdrawn.
MR WESTENDE (4.37): Madam Speaker, I thank Mr Moore for his kind words, and, indeed, I am going to approach this budget in the way I would approach a business proposition. Before I do that I would like to remind Mr Moore that I would agree with him that greed is a dirty word, but profit is not, because one has to be profitable to be able to employ people.
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