Page 1601 - Week 06 - Tuesday, 17 May 1994

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MR BERRY: The Liberals are not interested in that. Mrs Carnell laughs. Mrs Carnell is the one who has been involved in something which has been described as unlawful, and she laughs at these sorts of proposals. She ought not laugh at them. They are very serious. They are about the provision of a better quality of life for our community, and our young people in particular, and for those in the community who work in the construction industry - a very important part of the private sector in the ACT and one that this Labor Government is dedicated to protect. We intend to make sure that we provide a better lot for them. That is something that the Liberals opposite do not seemed concerned about.

MRS GRASSBY (9.20): Madam Speaker, I do not think that Mr De Domenico has been listening to the right people. There is not a person I have met in the building trade who has not said to me how much need there is for people with training. There is not a young person I have met who has not said to me, "I would love to get into the building industry, but I cannot get an apprenticeship".

Mr De Domenico: There are no jobs there, Ellnor.

Mrs Carnell: Why? Because there are no jobs.

MRS GRASSBY: A training levy would give people the chance to train. This is exactly what it would do.

Mr De Domenico: No, it will not. Read the Bill. You do not know what you are talking about.

MRS GRASSBY: Mr De Domenico, you are not listening to the right people in town. I listen to people who talk about this. The majority of people would be prepared - - -

Mr De Domenico: Have you read the Bill?

MRS GRASSBY: Yes, I have.

MADAM SPEAKER: Order!

Mrs Carnell: Of course she has not.

MRS GRASSBY: Mrs Carnell, you do not read everything that I read. Do not tell me what I do know and what I do not know. I have been watching the tick-tack between you and the two Independents and I gather that we have lost out on this anyway. They are voting with you because you have told them how to vote. Do not tell me what to do, Mrs Carnell. I would hate to be following in your footsteps, I can tell you.

The trouble with Mr De Domenico is that he thinks this is all wrapped up with the union. He has this great hate of the unions. If he thought the unions were going to benefit in any way by it, he would be against it anyway. He does not realise that the youth of Canberra, the young people, will get a chance to train for something. It is a levy that would provide training for people. As I say, I gather from the tick-tacking between Mrs Carnell and the Independents that we have lost out on getting this through anyway.


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