Page 947 - Week 04 - Tuesday, 19 April 1994

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MR BERRY: Okay; we can agree to disagree, and nothing on which I deal with Mr Humphries will be done without it being in writing in future. That is the way you do business. You will have to do it in writing, or Mrs Carnell will have to appoint somebody who is more honourable.

Mr Humphries: Madam Speaker, I would ask that Mr Berry withdraw that comment.

MADAM SPEAKER: Yes, Mr Berry. You will have to withdraw the improper imputation.

MR BERRY: I withdraw that, Madam Speaker. If Mrs Carnell cannot appoint somebody I can deal with and can expect to stick to their word, I suggest that she appoint somebody else. Mr De Domenico was dumped from that position for the same sort of behaviour.

Mr Humphries: Madam Speaker - - -

MADAM SPEAKER: Just a minute, Mr Berry. We have another point of order.

Mr Humphries: Mr Berry clearly implies that I am not a person of my word, and I ask that it be withdrawn. I have never told Mr Berry anything of the sort that he is suggesting.

Mrs Grassby: It is true. It is your word against his word.

Mr Humphries: That does not make what he says true.

MADAM SPEAKER: Order! Mr Berry is well aware of imputations against a member being improper. Please withdraw that, Mr Berry.

MR BERRY: I withdraw that. I will say what I said to Mr Humphries. I pointed out to Mr Humphries what I intended to do. It is in keeping with the motion which is before this chamber. My recollection of the discussion was that Mr Humphries said, "That would be okay", or words to that effect. If that implies that he is dishonourable, that is a problem he is going to have to deal with, not me. So, Mr Kaine, now you know why I came to the view that I did, because I would not - - -

Mr Kaine: No, I do not, I am afraid, Mr Berry.

MR BERRY: One thing I have grown to understand in the last little while is that eight cannot beat nine. Whatever you might think about me, do not ever think of me as being stupid, because I can work these things out. In relation to this matter, I do not know why people are so agitated about it, because it is precisely as I discussed with people this morning. It might present some underlying view that I am not aware of. Are you saying that I did not talk to you?

Mr Moore: That is not what I said at all.


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