Page 391 - Week 02 - Wednesday, 2 March 1994

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MR BERRY: That is a hypothetical question and is therefore - - -

Mrs Carnell: No, it is not.

Mr De Domenico: You do not know, do you?

MR BERRY: Hang on a minute. It is just like the Liberals - - -

Mrs Carnell: It is not hypothetical.

MR BERRY: That is a hypothetical question because - - -

Mr De Domenico: It is not. It is not a hypothetical question.

MR BERRY: I am telling you that it is. You are asking the right person because I am the one who has been given the undertaking by VITAB that they will not offer inducements to ACT bettors and, therefore, it will not happen. It is entirely hypothetical. It is a matter of public record here. It was in the Canberra Times this morning. There is also a commitment from them that they will make sure that people are not poached. That is the name of the business. You people do not - - -

Mr De Domenico: Do you believe any of that?

MR BERRY: I believe it as far as the Northern Territory TAB is concerned. You are not suggesting - - -

Mr De Domenico: They are not registered in Vanuatu, though.

MADAM SPEAKER: Order!

MR BERRY: Oh! Here is more of this racist stuff.

Mr De Domenico: No. It is a tax haven. It is not racist. It is a tax haven.

MR BERRY: What is wrong with Vanuatu?

Mrs Carnell: What is wrong with a tax haven?

MR BERRY: Indeed, what is wrong with a tax haven? Many of your friends would just love them. It is an entirely hypothetical question and is, therefore, out of order. There is a commitment from VITAB that they will not be offering inducements for Australians to bet with VITAB, so it is not an issue. While we are on this matter, there are a few other things that we might as well discuss. The Liberals do not raise the issue of the Northern Territory TAB, of course, where we have a similar arrangement.

Mr Humphries: I raise a point of order, Madam Speaker. I think Mr Berry is about to stray from the question. The question, very simply, was: Is there the same payment, the same costs of a bet, in the event that the horses, the odds and the dividends are the same? That is the question, and I ask the Minister to stick to that question.


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