Page 3815 - Week 14 - Thursday, 10 December 1992

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Madam Speaker, I have one question which the Chief Minister may feel inclined to answer in some other fashion. She announces the expenditure of a sum of $528,400 this year. I presume that that is to be spent this year. It is a joint funding package from the ACT Government and ATSIC. The statement does not indicate how much of that money is coming out of the ACT budget. Perhaps the Chief Minister might answer that question so that we will know precisely how much of that money is coming from the ACT Government and the ACT taxpayer.

To conclude, Madam Speaker, I take up the notion put forward by the Chief Minister - that this will receive bipartisan support. Indeed it does. But if we had been involved at an earlier stage we might have suggested some additional things that might be included in the Government's program during this year. That is based on the discussions that some of us have had with representatives of the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander groups in the ACT, and some bipartisan approach might be of benefit. It is a good initiative; it is something that we should do. But I am a little surprised at the manner in which the Government has announced it.

PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS

MRS CARNELL: Madam Speaker, I seek leave under standing order 46 to make a personal explanation.

Leave granted.

MRS CARNELL: During question time today Mr Berry indicated to the house that he had provided me with full figures for the September quarter, indicating that they were financial figures.

Mr Berry: And he did. He provided financial figures.

MRS CARNELL: I have not received full financial figures for the September quarter, unless Mr Berry has provided them since question time started. I would like to put on record that I do not have the full financial statements that Mr Berry promised Mr Moore and me at a meeting, I think, on 18 November.

MR BERRY (Minister for Health, Minister for Industrial Relations and Minister for Sport): Madam Speaker, I would like to make a short statement in response to that.

Leave granted.

MR BERRY: You cannot get up here and say something that is not true and get away with it. There were figures provided to the - - -

Mr Kaine: I take a point of order, Madam Speaker. We have had a debate about this matter of what is true and not true on a number of occasions and you have made rulings in connection with the fact that people are not entitled to say that something that has been said is not true.

MR BERRY: It does not matter. I withdraw it. We do not need a ruling.


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