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spent on that particular use. In other words, if it is to be used as, say, a dancing school or a drop-in centre for youth or something of that kind, then the particular area which wishes to use it for that purpose ought to meet the cost of making it into that particular facility. Why the education budget should have to bear the cost of establishing a youth drop-in centre in Belconnen is beyond me. We may well need such a thing, but the education budget should not have to bear the cost of that. That is why that cost is not included.

If the school is required many years hence, I am sure the capital savings generated by the sale of some schools in this round would more than cover the cost of any refurbishment in the future.

Mr Stevenson: This round?

MR HUMPHRIES: Well, there have been two rounds, Mr Stevenson, in case you have not noticed. This is at least the second round of school closures that - - -

Mr Stevenson: I thought it may suggest that there are going to be more.

MR HUMPHRIES: I think you should ask future governments, including future Labor governments, whether there are going to be more. It depends on whether the school age population of Canberra continues to decline.

Mr Collaery: Labor has a closure policy.

MR HUMPHRIES: Yes, indeed. But I think the answer is very clear: you have to look very carefully at what you are going to do with those buildings and those sites and the uses ought appropriately to be determined, and, if that use entails conversion to something else, then the particular something else ought to think about paying the cost of that conversion.

60 Minutes Program - Ministry

MR BERRY: My question is directed to the Chief Minister. Chief Minister, you said on 60 Minutes that it is possible to get more Ministers for less money. Do you stand by that statement?

MR KAINE: Again, Mr Speaker, that quote was taken out of a much longer statement. What I was saying to Mr Carleton - - -

Members interjected.

MR KAINE: Whether the people in the Opposition like to hear this or not, what I was saying to Mr Carleton was that there was a very heavy workload on the Ministers currently


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